The debate starts at 8 p.m. Let us know who you think is winning.
9:16 p.m.
Astorino and Cuomo are taking questions from the press in Buffalo.
I'm rewatching the debate. Here are my takeaways:
1. With the exception of Hawkins' mention of Interstate 81, the debate focused on Buffalo development and Westchester County politics -- and almost no other part of New York.
2. Astorino was on the attack, Cuomo on the defense. That's not surprising, considering Cuomo's leading by more than 20 points.
3. Cuomo promised to serve a full four years.
4. Cuomo turned to Onondaga County District Attorney Bill Fitzpatrick when he got the Moreland Commission question. "He has repeatedly said he made all decisions independently," Cuomo said, calling Fitzpatrick the most preeminent DA in the state.
5. McDermott turned a question about hydrofracking into an answer about industrial hemp. "Google it," he urged. I will.
And No. 6: Astorino is not in favor of using more public money for a Buffalo Bills' stadium.
ICYMI I embedded a couple of Twitter feeds in this story, down below. Tweet about the debate and the after-debate analysis are still streaming in.
9 p.m.
That's it. Hawkins ended by noting this last hour was the only gubernatorial debate this season. The elections are Nov. 4.
8:57 p.m.
Cuomo and McDermott almost fist-bump at the end. It's over, all.
8:56 p.m.
Hawkins gives his pledge: The Green New Deal. "Vote Green."
8:54 p.m.
"I'm ready to be your governor to turn this state around," Astorino says. If you really feel your taxes have gone down under Andrew Cuomo? "They haven't." He's partly right -- property taxes continue to rise, though slower than in the past. The richest New Yorkers are paying a higher income tax rate. Middle class people are paying slightly lower rates.
8:53 p.m.
"Democrats and Republicans are the problem," McDermott says. "Vote Libertarian this one time."
8:52 p.m.
Closing statements. Cuomo first. "Upstate New York didn't get the attention it deserved," Cuomo says. "That's what the Buffalo Billion is about." Says Upstate is improving, and Astorino would unravel that. "The arrows are pointed in the right direction."
8:51 p.m.
Instead, Cuomo says he's against legalization of marijuana. Then says Westchester County has some of the highest property taxes in the nation.
8:51 p.m.
"I'm his county executive," Astorino says to Cuomo. Are we going to get a I'm your governor from Cuomo? Sounds like no.
8:48 p.m.
Only mention of Syracuse so far comes from Hawkins, who talked about I-81. Most of the debate has focused on Cuomo and Astorino's home, Westchester County. A few mentions of Buffalo. But no one is really talking about what's between Buffalo and the New York City suburbs.
8:47 p.m.
Should marijuana be legal? Hawkins says he will push for legalization, taxation and regulation of marijuana. Too many people being charged for possessing small amounts of marijuana, especially black or Latinos.
8:46 p.m.
Panelist doing good job with short, direct questions. Candidates doing good job turning those questions on each other with jabs about racism, court cases and federal investigations.
8:45 p.m.
Cuomo pledges to serve all four years, as does Hawkins, McDermott, AStorino.
8:44 p.m.
Hawkins: If the state goes in, we ought to get our share, like the Green Bay Packers. Would provide more transparency and could ensure the Bills stay in Buffalo.
8:44 p.m.
"My opponent is also against the Buffalo Billion," Cuomo says.
8:43 p.m.
Astorino does not thing any more taxpayer money should go into a Buffalo Bills stadium. And turns the conversation back to the Westchester housing discrimination case.
8:42 p.m.
McDermott "I think the Buffalo Bills are great," he says, "But we don't need the government to get in the way.
8:41 p.m.
Next question from Hamburg, and is about public taxpayer supporter for the Buffalo Bills' stadium.
8:40 p.m.
Cuomo turns to Astorino (and race charges) instead of charter schools. Brings up federal court case against public housing in Westchester and codifying Roe v. Wade. Nothing on charter schools.
8:39 p.m.
Astorino's three kids in public schools, wife is a teacher. But hasn't said whether he would support charter schools. Instead, talking about how he got elected in Westchester County with a variety of supporters.
8:38 p.m.
McDermott does not agree with Hawkins. Says charter schools are public schools. But he says he'll homeschool his daughter before he sends her to a charter school.
8:37 p.m.
Next question about charter schools. Hawkins up first. He's against charters, saying its "cannibalization" of public school system. Wants to fully fund schools.
8:36 p.m.
Here's the incident about "extreme views."
8:36 p.m.
"Shame on Gov. Cuomo for playing the race card," Astorino says of Cuomo -- though that doesn't get to the question, which was whether extreme views are welcome in New York.
8:35 p.m.
McDermott again agrees with Cuomo, says the governor didn't mean that people with extreme views aren't welcome in New York.
8:33 p.m.
"I think New York's a place for everybody," Hawkins said, and turns the question to redistricting. Six senate seats near Syracuse that are unopposed this term. Also says Cuomo, others should let the legislature pass the nine items on the women's equality act -- and work on the abortion plank separately.
8:32 p.m.
Extreme views in New York: Can you oppose abortion and gun control and still be welcome in New York? Cuomo says that's not what he meant. Cuomo turns the question to Astorino's "ultra-conservative" views on abortion, same sex marriage, the Dream Act.
8:31 p.m.
McDermott agrees with Cuomo (not the first time he's said that tonight).
8:30 p.m.
Hawkins turns the TZB question toward Interstate 81:
"We've got an interstate that's got to come down in my hometown in Syracuse," Hawkins says, adding the DOT keeps talking about getting people to and from University Hill instead of talking about how to help people without cars in the city and the suburbs get to and from work.
8:29 p.m.
Cuomo: "We're finally rebuilding the Tappan Zee Bridge," Cuomo says, and saving $1 billion doing it. "We don't have the final cost for the bridge," he said. "We will figure out the toll when we know the final cost.....it will be affordable for the commuters."
8:28 p.m.
Next up, Tappan Zee Bridge.
Astorino gives Cuomo credit for putting the project together. but the governor hasn't figured out how to pay for it. Astorino says that all of NY should get the higher tolls for the bridge.
8:27 p.m.
Cuomo: "I have nothing to do with Common Core." The Board of REgents is in charge of it. "I stopped the grading of Common Core." Says he put a five-year moratorium on using test scores.
8:26 p.m.
Cuomo's Common Core a disaster, Astorino says. Want to get rid of it.
8:25 p.m.
McDermott says he and his daughter work on homework together. And neither one gets it (again to laughter).
8:24 p.m.
First video question from voter is about Common Core. Hawkins is up first. Says it narrows learning and focuses on filling in answers. Local school boards should make decisions about curriculum.
8:24 p.m.
"I rest my case," McDermott says to laughter after hearing the sparring over the definitions of independent and mentions of investigations.
8:22 p.m.
Cuomo: "truly outrageous," says in response to Astorino's challenge. Says Astorino is under investigation for racketeering and he won't release his taxes.
8:21 p.m.
Astorino says Cuomo is swimming in a cesspool of corruption. You're looking at Andrew Cuomo...."a person that very well may be indicted," Astorino says. Challenges the governor to swear that he has not been subpoenaed Preet Bharara, a federal prosecutor.
8:20 p.m.
McDermott: "The solution lies in getting the people involved in all of this stuff."
8:18 p.m.
Hawkins on Moreland: He would re-impanel it. And he would change campaign finance laws to use public funds to help people run for office. He wants lawmakers to be full-time, so that they couldn't make money in the private sector while serving.
8:17 p.m.
Here it is: Moreland. Cuomo is up first. Mentions Bill Fitzpatrick, Onondaga County DA, who was co-chair. Fitzpatrick has said he made all the decisions regarding the Moreland Commission's investigations. "He's been saying that for months," Cuomo says of Fitzpatrick.
8:16 p.m.
McDermott turns the question to industrial hemp. "Please google it, and look it up."
8:15 p.m.
Hawkins says Cuomo's actions so far have been a farce on hydrofracking. Hawkins is against the deep, horizontal drilling, period.
8:14 p.m.
Cuomo compares Astorino to Mark Ruffalo, actor who is against hydrofracking. Says Astorino acts one way in Westchester County and another in Upstate when it comes to fracking.
8:13 p.m.
Astorino says dozens of other states are drilling for natural gas. "We can do that here in New York." This will lower energy costs, create jobs, and be a boost for schools. "We would move forward in the first 90 days of administration."
8:12 p.m.
Next question from Karen DeWitt. She asks about hydrofracking. First up, Astorino.
8:11 p.m.
Hawkins: We need a trickle-up policy. The best way is to commit to 100 percent clean energy over the next 50 years. That would cut electric rates in half, put people to work, he says.
8:10 p.m.
Cuomo: "Rhetoric is good, facts are better." Mentions Tax Foundation's recent award to the state for improving the tax climate for businesses. Tax Foundation is a non-partisan group.
8:08 p.m.
Astorino. We basically have massive "corporate welfare." Andrew Cuomo benefits from this tremendously, Astorino says, and uses the money to trash the Republican with television ads.
8:07 p.m.
Bob Mccarthy's question is about economic development.
McDermott is not in favor of Start-Up NY. "It doesn't include a lot that it needs to include."
8:05 p.m.
Astorino starts off with his mantra: New York is losing instead of winning. He wants to cut taxes, impose terms limits to "clean up the corruption" of Cuomo's administration. And get rid of the "unsafe act."
8:04 p.m.
Cuomo dismissed "ultra conservative" candidate as an option to lead New York. Hawkins now talking up his Green platform, which includes a ban on hydrofracking.
8:02 p.m.
Brian Meyer is our moderator. Four candidates are seated. Candidates will take questions from panelists and video questions from voters.
8 p.m.
And we're on.
7:55 p.m.
Cuomo gives Hawkins a friendly hello according to the Wall Street Journal's Erica Orden.
7:53 p.m.
Looks like Cuomo is the last one to come on stage.
7:50 p.m.
If you're reading this story, please remember to refresh every few minutes to keep up with the blog. I don't think it will refresh on its own. Candidates are on stage now, getting mics on.
7:47 p.m.
Looks like some of the Albany press corps is using #nygov as well tonight. Great, economical hashtag.
7:45 p.m.
Cuomo likes a cold room. It appears tonight is no different.
7:44 p.m.
If you're not on Twitter, follow the conversation here:
7:40 p.m.
If you're following along on Twitter, it looks like the hashtag is #nysgovdebate . Did I miss any others?
7:35 p.m.
Evening, all. The debate starts in about 30 minutes. I'll be blogging along the way. Please join in in the comments below, especially when you think a candidate strikes a key point or goes way out on a limb.
For now, here's our line-up:
The candidates
Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Democrat, running for second term.
Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino, Republican, first statewide campaign.
Howie Hawkins, Green Party candidate. From Syracuse, a nightshift worker for UPS. Ran for governor four years ago.
Michael McDermott, Libertarian.
The hosts
The Buffalo News and WNED/WBFO
The view
In the Syracuse area, you can watch starting at 8 p.m. on WCNY. The Buffalo News is livestreaming the event. Most public television stations across the state will carry the debate. (I already set my DVR.) WRVO will re-broadcast the debate at 9 p.m.
The preview
Cuomo has managed to maintain a commanding lead throughout the campaign season, most recently polling 21 points ahead of Astorino. Cuomo has run a somewhat muted campaign, running television ads across the state for weeks while making only one Upstate political swing so far this fall (not counting several one-stop trips to Buffalo). His message highlights his first term -- lower income tax rates for middle-class earners, a 10-year tax-free program for qualifying businesses, stricter guns laws, on-time budgets and decreases in state spending growth over previous years. What he doesn't mention? His administration's involvement in an anti-corruption commission and failing to take politics out of redistricting. A key promise for his second term is a "women's equality agenda" that includes codifying abortion laws.
Astorino has spent most of the summer and fall crisscrossing the state, criticizing Cuomo's tax policies as driving people from New York. He's failed to cash in on emotional backlash Cuomo faced after passing the NY Safe Act, and a prominent state business group has backed the incumbent governor. Astorino would repeal the Safe Act, stop Common Core standards implementations and review all state tax benefit programs before establishing a new, flatter tax plan. Astorino favors hydrofracking.
Hawkins is polling at 9 percent, a sky-high achievement for a third-party candidate. Hawkins' progressive platform (higher minimum wage, no hydrofracking, government jobs for unemployed) is meant to push Cuomo to the left.
As a Libertarian candidate, McDermott is at a disadvantage because his party doesn't have a permanent line on the ballot. If he gets 50,000 votes, that would change.
The election
Nov. 4. Polls open at 6 a.m., close at 9 p.m.